Firstly I'd like to say that I thought that starlight83's constructive critism was absolutely brilliant, helpful, useful, and well, everything Lucy/beres-ford said. She asked for constructive critism and starlight responded and gave an extensive and helpful, ( and clearly experienced) report on how Lucy could improve and edit the piece. It was what was needed and wanted and I'ts great learning from that too.
Secondly I have to add that Im actually lucy's best friend so this may make me biased to defend her wholeheartedly, but on the other hand, I'm also saying what I think and believe too.
It's always hard getting critism, whether constructive or simply hurtful, but it's part of life and necessary to build a strong personality and learn from it. I understand this. I wish I could get more constructive critism on my area of creativity so that I won't get a shock when I'm in the grinder of critism, but I know that it'll happen one day and when it does, it will hurt, but it will be a good learning experience and one has to move on from that. People have to be ready to stand in the firing line and be prepared for it. It always hurts or makes one defensive but, then it can be seen to beveituer helpful, or nonsense.
But I have to say, alonsoelbueno, that you simply took it too far. You said nothing helpful and were blantantly hurtful and rude. I'm all for freedom of speech, I love it, honesty is the best policy, but dear god, why on earth would you be so harsh and forthcoming to someone who asked for "constructive critism"!? It's not an invitation to attack feelings.
Another thing that annoys me here is that everyone has forgotten the main principle of fictional writing (and I may be only 17, and not even a writer, as I prefer drawing, but I have my opinions) which is surely to be imaginative, creative, and therefore, Lucy has accomplished everything?
The other issue here is that, yes, there are mistakes, grammatical and spelling errors, but when one is just on a roll, writing writing writing away, creating new characters, worlds, ideas, stories, does it really matter? If you enjoy it and love it, that's what counts. When one is a professional author it is important of course: you get an editor, or you go through it many times abd edit it yourself, but Lucy, being an extremely avid writer, but not a professional one, is writing fir herself (or for me in this case) and therefore may make mistakes. This is why age asked for constructive critism. So that people could helpfully give her tips and guides and point out things she hadn't noticed. Not to simply insult her. Yes people have to learn to take things like this but in the first place it's important to take care in others feelings too. yes, by all means, say what you feel, say your opinions, it's important, but don't act all pompous and smart and as if everyone else is stupid.
Basically, I may be biased because I love this story, I think it's brilliant, it's got great description, an intriguing story, and awesome characters, and to me it's perfect for my story likes, yes it kay have spelling typos and continuity fails etcetcetc blah blah but being me, I see past that, I see the story, the plot, the characters and dialogue.
Writers need editing and drafts of course. They need to learn to take critism by the boatload. It hurts everytime but it's part of learning and growing up. But if one enjoys what they do and loves writing (or whatever else it is they do) and is happy creating. That's what is important.
I'll leave the pointing out of Simple errors to someone else.
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Date: 2009-12-19 12:39 am (UTC)She asked for constructive critism and starlight responded and gave an extensive and helpful, ( and clearly experienced) report on how Lucy could improve and edit the piece. It was what was needed and wanted and I'ts great learning from that too.
Secondly I have to add that Im actually lucy's best friend so this may make me biased to defend her wholeheartedly, but on the other hand, I'm also saying what I think and believe too.
It's always hard getting critism, whether constructive or simply hurtful, but it's part of life and necessary to build a strong personality and learn from it. I understand this. I wish I could get more constructive critism on my area of creativity so that I won't get a shock when I'm in the grinder of critism, but I know that it'll happen one day and when it does, it will hurt, but it will be a good learning experience and one has to move on from that.
People have to be ready to stand in the firing line and be prepared for it. It always hurts or makes one defensive but, then it can be seen to beveituer helpful, or nonsense.
But I have to say, alonsoelbueno, that you simply took it too far. You said nothing helpful and were blantantly hurtful and rude.
I'm all for freedom of speech, I love it, honesty is the best policy, but dear god, why on earth would you be so harsh and forthcoming to someone who asked for "constructive critism"!? It's not an invitation to attack feelings.
Another thing that annoys me here is that everyone has forgotten the main principle of fictional writing (and I may be only 17, and not even a writer, as I prefer drawing, but I have my opinions) which is surely to be imaginative, creative, and therefore, Lucy has accomplished everything?
The other issue here is that, yes, there are mistakes, grammatical and spelling errors, but when one is just on a roll, writing writing writing away, creating new characters, worlds, ideas, stories, does it really matter? If you enjoy it and love it, that's what counts. When one is a professional author it is important of course: you get an editor, or you go through it many times abd edit it yourself, but Lucy, being an extremely avid writer, but not a professional one, is writing fir herself (or for me in this case) and therefore may make mistakes. This is why age asked for constructive critism. So that people could helpfully give her tips and guides and point out things she hadn't noticed. Not to simply insult her.
Yes people have to learn to take things like this but in the first place it's important to take care in others feelings too. yes, by all means, say what you feel, say your opinions, it's important, but don't act all pompous and smart and as if everyone else is stupid.
Basically, I may be biased because I love this story, I think it's brilliant, it's got great description, an intriguing story, and awesome characters, and to me it's perfect for my story likes, yes it kay have spelling typos and continuity fails etcetcetc blah blah but being me, I see past that, I see the story, the plot, the characters and dialogue.
Writers need editing and drafts of course. They need to learn to take critism by the boatload. It hurts everytime but it's part of learning and growing up. But if one enjoys what they do and loves writing (or whatever else it is they do) and is happy creating. That's what is important.
I'll leave the pointing out of Simple errors to someone else.
Kathryn